The Ultimate Logic

Prem Rawat's Speech on November 23, 1976, Swaziland, Africa

Dear premies, we have all come here to celebrate the Hans Jayanti Festival.

Legally, it was the eighth, ninth and tenth, but technically, its happening now. Because truly what Hans Jayanti Festival really means to all of us is to be able to come together and participate, and to be able to listen to satsang and to be able to understand more and more what this Knowledge really is.

In this world, man has civilized himself so much, man has gone to like -- you could almost say, well, it's not exactly the peak of civilization at this point, but it's quite ahead of its time and it's quite, quite large. But still the satisfaction doesn't exist, and the true satisfaction that doesn't really exist is what everybody's trying to pursue in their lives. It's just like, in the whole civilization of mankind, from living in trees and caves, we now have mansions and we have hotels and we have -- what have you. Such incredible facilities have been provided, and it's all man's effort. We do so much -- we get together and we do so much. Like, scientists from Germany got together, scientists from different countries got together, scientists from America got together -- and they were quite capable of sending a remote controlled machine to Mars.

But do we ever settle down for a second and ask ourselves a simple question: what are we doing all this for? What really is the true purpose behind it? What are we trying to pursue in our lives, what is our goal? Because there most definitely is a goal in our lives, otherwise the progression that takes place, the constant progression that happens, wouldn't happen -- just the progression that nature provides us. You see a little child and the child tries to just come together from the very beginning. When they're just born, they can't really see. They can't really -- they can hear but it just doesn't register -- my Mama's voice or my Papa's voice -- it doesn't register. It's just happening. Very soon you start seeing the babies go cross-eyed, because they're trying to focus, they're trying to see something. Still, it doesn't register what it is. That just constantly keeps on happening, it is a constant progression. Then finally, nature brings person to a point where he can perceive, where he can see and hear. He can feel. And he can distinguish. He can understand. He can register. He's got incredible memory banks. And everything is developed inside of a human being.

But the question is: we know the way we use all these perceptions, all these qualities that have been provided to us. We use them in our daily lives, but the question is: is that the reason why we have those perceptions? And that is a very good question; it's a very big question, because really, nobody settles down in their life and asks that question, that what is all around me, what I am -- what everybody else is -- what is the motive, what is the purpose, what is the meaning of us all being here?

And when we look at that and when we look at the confusion, and the amount of confusion involved, in trying to understand that -- the amount of confusion involved in trying to actually sort it out in our lives - then we look at Knowledge that has been given to us, that has been revealed to us, and that's where we can weigh how fantastic, how beautiful that really is. How incredible, how great that really is. Because, not only technically -- has it saved us an enormous amount of time, also we have previous records of people trying to accomplish the realization, to accomplish in this lifetime to know what their goal is who never were able to quite do it, never were able to quite accomplish it -- and now here, in this age, in this lifetime, it's very possible: through Knowledge, through the process of satsang, service and meditation.

So first of all, let us look at each other, let us just experience the grace and the love and the truth that is involved here. This isn't just another gathering, this isn't just another function. You know, this is ust not -- not just somebody's birthday celebration, but this is a birthday celebration of


Shri Guru Maharaj Ji, who started this organization, who in his life period gave Knowledge to thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands of people. And by his grace, so many other thousands and thousands and hundreds of thousands of premies have been able to receive this Knowledge. But still, when we gather here, when we all come together, we come for one purpose: not only to give thanks, but our other, second purpose is to just experience satsang, service and meditation.

You know, to me, its really important for a person to understand, to recognize the meaning of what this process really is. Its like the example -- when I came here I used to give -- that one day there was just a farmer walking along and he saw this big, huge, shiny thing just sitting in the sand and he picked it up and he said, "What's the matter with these people, how come they leave glass all over the place, in people's path?"

So he just took it and he just threw it so that if people passed that way it wouldn't hurt them. And here comes a jeweler. Here comes a person who knows what this is, and he sees this nice, bright, shiny thing and he says, "Wow, how lucky I am, how fortunate I am."

And he picks it up and he takes advantage of it, he makes use of it. Now why is that important? I mean you have to ask yourself a question: was not that opportunity provided in equal amount to that farmer as it was provided to the jeweler? It most definitely was. The stone was right there. But it was truly what the jeweler was searching for, was truly what the jeweler knew the meaning of -- he understood, he recognized it. While the farmer -- it was just a hunk of glass. And it's the same way in this world: whoever is alive right now, who is breathing, who is trucking along, who is just going along in his life has an opportunity to realize this Knowledge. But people -- you give satsang at a public program -- a lot of people come. And to some people it's just interesting philosophy. It's philosophy. To me, it's hard to understand how can you just take something so precious and just call it a philosophy, just call it a concept, just call it a theory -- when it is beyond theory, when it is actually beyond any philosophy, when it is beyond any concept. How can you -- how can people just do that? While other people who are truly searching for something like this, they're truly searching for an experience in their lives which is true -- those people perceive it; they start to open their hearts up to it.

So the fact remains that it's not the opportunity provided, because it always is

Prem Rawat (Maharaji) 1977
Prem Rawat (Maharaji) Guru Maharaj Ji the Satguru and Perfect Master 1977
Prem Rawat (Maharaji) 1977
Prem Rawat (Maharaji) Guru Maharaj Ji the Satguru and Perfect Master 1977

there. It's the proper utilization of that opportunity provided that is going to provide us with any kind of benefit, and the benefit of this Knowledge is the ultimate benefit that can be provided in this lifetime to any human being existing in this world -- because its true. Because it is who we really are.

Today we associate ourselves so much by our name. And just coming from Johannesburg to Swaziland -- I was flying in an airplane and I had just had a long, long flight from Rio to Johannesburg. We took off in Rio -- look out the window and you see lights, in about a couple of minutes they're all gone, you're over the water. The night before that we were just talking about what airplanes can really do -- talking about, if this engine quits, what'll happen? And if this engine catches on fire, what'll happen? If one engine fails how the plane would react. And I was saying, ''Wow, this is completely nuts. I'm sitting in this airplane, and I'm going somewhere -- Johannesburg -- and this thing could just quit -- just like that.'' And it would quit, it would go right down the drain, I mean, right into the ocean. And forget it. You probably wouldn't even have a chance to get your life rafts out and to be able to get yourself together and to be able to do that. It would just be a hocus- pocus crash.

Then it was like, well, that is just, I guess, the risk you take. But then I weighed the risk, of course, why am I doing this -- and it's to be be able to give satsang to the premies of South Africa and it really is beautiful. I was really excited. And that's the only thing that brings me to this side of the world -- the premies -- because it's kind of out of the way. Before, the schedule was that I would fly from Los Angeles to Lima, and Lima to Rio, Rio to South Africa, South Africa to -- no, it was from Lima to Rio, Rio to Frankfurt, Frankfurt to South Africa, and then South Africa to Australia, and Australia to maybe the Orient, and then approach back into Los Angeles. That would have made a little more sense, but it was too much to do at that point so it's just been cut to one part of the world.

But because of satsang it made it all, it made it all worthwhile, it made it all beautiful to just be able to see the premies because I know the understanding the premies have here and of the love the premies have here -- it's really incredible to be able to hang on to this part of the world, you know, because there's really not much going on, in terms of inspiration for the premies. And which I hope will change very soon and that there's more happening for the premies. It's just matter of getting together and doing it.

And then I was thinking -- going back to the point I started from -- then we flew from Johannesburg to Swaziland, and this airplane was -- I wouldn't say it was fresh out of the factory -- it was old, had propellors and it took


off -- the whole thing was buzzing. Like a big -- like we were sitting on top of a huge bee. We took off and it was just like again, it was the same association: this thing could go down, it wouldn't take much for this thing to go down. But there was a constant drive, and by Guru Maharaj Ji's grace nothing happened. I'm thankful for that. But in terms of our association: what kind of association do we really have? I'm pretty sure the other person was flying with me -- he probably didn't care about that. To him, he probably shut off his window, started reading the magazine, started reading the book, started doing the work and that was it.

But in this world, so many chances, so many risks we take -- and we have an association, and the way we associate is by our name. We associate. We say "Michael" -- and you know all of a sudden a head turns. "John" -- all of a sudden head turns. There's an association, and its really different, because I have found that, when that name is called, when somebody calls your name -- they're on an intercom or just when you're at home and somebody calls your name -- so much happens. Your mind starts to just throw out everything it has in its memory bank what it could be for. Maybe I blew my flight, if it's at the airport -- what could I possibly be being paged for, what is happening -- so much association that we have with ourselves.

But realistically -- and this is what the example I was giving you about the airplane -- was that realistic: to what extent is that association that we have with ourselves really true? To what extent does it really exist? To what extent is it real and to what extent is it fake? Because it's different; we do associate ourselves with that. I mean you say "Raja Ji" Raja Ji goes "Huh, yes?" Or somebody calls me, I go "Yes?" And we just have such an association in this life. And we just keep on going with this association. My question is: how real is it in terms of whatever we do, all the activities that we are doing around? Suppose -- just consider it for a second: maybe it's all fake, maybe this is not exactly what a man is supposed to be doing. Then what would happen to the relations that we have with the association of ourselves, whatever we do in our lifetime?

So premies -- and this is a very interesting question -- it just struck me. Wow, we go around and we have these tickets, we have these things -- we have passports, to get visas you have to have this health card, you have to fill out applications, you have to fill out forms, you have to do this, you have to do that -- you have to go through so much -- so much of your body, so much of your self you have to sacrifice. Of course, like I said -- there's a reason why all that was happening to me and I was accepting it because it was like, okay, well, I'm going to South Africa to give a program and this is what my life is all about, to give Knowledge, to give satsang.

But there are so many other people -- and there's a vast difference, because what I associate myself to be as, is to reveal that truth that people are missing, to reveal that Knowledge, to reveal that understanding that people are missing. But that same association that I have with myself, other people have, too. These are the people who go around -- like in big carousel: every day, every part of their lives is divided into that carousel, and they just keep on riding it, aimlessly, without ever having to even consider the fact that what they are doing -- is it real, is it true? is it really what we are here for?

And nobody understands that, and if they really were to stop somebody on the street tomorrow and ask him that question, they would go: really, just beat it, leave me alone -- are you crazy? Because it's too much; it's too involved, it's too much asking of them, in terms of what is the truth and are you doing it? Are you really accomplishing why this body has been given? That's just one fact. That's just one aspect of it, but then you turn around and you look how many philosophies there are in this world, how many concepts there are in this world.

There are people who believe that this life is a process of evolution; we are here -- once we were apes, now we are men, we have this format: we are closest to that, closest to apes -- feeding process is automatic and you just keep on living and da da da da da and da da da da da -- that's it. But to me, yes, the theory of evolution is most logical. And everything in our lives that we look, that we associate is logical. If it is not logical, then it's no good for us. That is why, I guess, so many people go to school, so many people go to college, so many


people take so many courses. It's to just make things logical for them, so that yes, 2 + 2 is 4 and that's logical. 2 + 2 is 5 -- that is not logical. Well, to a person who hasn't studied that, the same thing that makes 2 + 2 come out 4, can make 2 + 2 come out 5. To him it just doesn't matter.

But we go through so much to create, to understand a logic. But maybe that's what our problem is, maybe there is something in this world that is illogical. Because it's supreme, because it's infinite. Because it's ultimate. And ultimate is illogical, you see, because ultimate doesn't associate, doesn't represent anything in terms of what man has -- or what man has, through science, put into this world. It doesn't associate with anything; it's just like -- energy is the closest thing. A logical explanation of that infinite thing is energy. And then there's these scientists saying okay, this is energy and just keep on going -- molecular energy, gas energy, coal energy -- and so on and so forth. But really, there's something ultimate. Why is it illogical? Because it's ultimate. Why should it be ultimate? Because you see it's so pure, it's so untouched, it is so ultimate, that you can throw as many questions as you want to it.

The questions -- there's no limit to how many questions you can put to yourself. Why? Why is it ultimate? Why should it be ultimate? What is the purpose of it? Why? But maybe that is our problem, that we never checked into something that was illogical, because you know, logic varies from person to person. Some people think that macrobiotic food is the best; some people think Indian food is the best. Some people think no, raw vegetables are the best. Around the residence there are a lot of books. There are books about macrobiotics, there's a book about -- just every kind of book the premies just get their hands on, they send. Sometimes I just pick them up, glance through them, and they go through point by point of explanation why a raw vegetable is better than boiled, and the other one says why a boiled vegetable is better than raw. And both are maybe logical. So the logic just varies; the logic -- it's inconstant.

So you can look at it two ways -- and this is a tricky situation -- either you can look at it that it's totally illogical because its ultimate. Or it is so logical that it outstands our logic, that it outbeats, outruns, outpowers our logic that we have, because it varies so much, and we are not all perfect. So therefore, that understanding, that logic, that ultimate thing, does exist, and this is where we have to surrender. Why do we have to surrender? That's a really good question: why do we have to surrender to that? Because it exists. You do not surrender to it, if you haven't experienced it. But you surrender to it when you have experienced it, because it is truth. Because you have seen it.

So premies, what I'm trying to drive at is that here we have this human body -- I hope somebody hasn't quite kicked the bucket in the audience here -- but here we have all the opportunity. We have time. We have body. We have our logics. We have our philosophies. We have our understanding. Perceptions. And if you add them all, they're so much, they're so great; the potential is incredible. So now -- you weigh yourself: you have this, you have this, you have this and you have this -- that is you. Then you add to it one other figure, one other thing, which is the access to Knowledge that you have. And then try to sum it up. And it's fantastic. it's beautiful. It's incredible.

To me, there's so many examples that can be given. There's so many scriptures that can be read. There's so many philosophies that can be studied. There's so many logics that could be understood. But, the most precious thing that we have -- the Knowledge and ourselves -- if we can really bring ourselves back to where we belong, if we can really put ourselves to where we should be at, to be able to sum up -- to be human, to be able to be a being, a creation -- creation which is all the way pointed, all the way one, with its origin, with its source from where it comes.

And that's it. That's all that really has to happen. It's made so easy in this century. it's been made so easy for man to be able to do this. And I also know how difficult man makes himself, how many barriers, how many walls, how many objections, how many things man really puts in front of him. I know. I was just doing the Lima Conference, and it was just like da da da da da da da. Then next point: da da da da da, what is this? What is this? What is that? How do you do this? How do you do that? How do you do that? It was just so many questions. So many -- things that people had boggled down in their heads that made it so


uneasy for them. Because the whole process is really simple; the whole process is really beautiful.

One day I was giving satsang at the residence and I was saying that maybe our problem is that we are very unsimple. To me, the way I see it, everybody in this whole world, every day, puts on a show -- that actually, every day you put on show. You get up, have to use a certain kind of cologne, you have to use a certain kind of shaving cream, and if, of course, you don't shave, you have to have a certain kind of beard. We put on a show; we put on an act. We have to portray a certain kind of image. We have to do certain kinds of things. It's just so many details. And we do that. But its not coming from who we are. It's not coming from the simplicity that exists within inside of us. It is not coming from our heart and is a very fake, very unreal pattern of life, that we have in time become used to.

So maybe, for once in our lifetime -- maybe once, in this precious moment if we can just simplify ourselves by -- maybe the pattern, maybe the show that we put on, we have become too accustomed to it to quit it. Well, maybe don't quit it. But at least become simple. Come to that point of origin. Come to the point of understanding. Come to the point of love. Become simple, because this Knowledge is very simple. It is you; it is what is sustaining you. All you have to do is just knock off those barriers. All you have to do is knock off those clouds. All you have to do is demolish those walls, that you have put there, and come back home -- come back to your origin, come back to that love that we look for. Come back to that bliss. It's really an incredible experience.

There's one thing at hand, and that is mind. Mind is, I guess it's the duty of mind to build barriers, to build walls, to distract you as much as it can. And it does that. And it does a wonderful job. You have to credit it. It does wonderful job of doing such: building walls, building barriers, confusing you. You have to knock that off, and what I mean by mind, I mean there's this something -- there's this haunting -- haunting you. There's something that's just totally absurd, that just constantly bugs a person within inside, that constantly just drives a person crazy. And that is what I'm referring to as mind. Not a thought, not an idea. It doesn't have a physical form, it doesn't have any weight, it doesn't have any shape -- it doesn't have anything; it's just something. You couldn't really say like a ghost, but it's something close to those lines. It's just there and it just keeps on going.

The more attempt you make -- people sit down for doing meditation and what do they think for the first fifteen minutes? What do people really think? I mean, you don't have to answer me that. But I know what people really think in those first fifteen minutes. "Okay, well, maybe I'll do an hour's worth of meditation and then I can go and clean the car, or maybe I'll do an hour's worth of meditation and then I can go and finish the unfinished project that I have" -- think of all these things. Mind wants you. Sometimes you sit down for meditation -- I've seen this happen -- people sit down for meditation and they just sat down, and all of a sudden they'll get up and get a glass of water. Mind pursues them: you are thirsty, you are very thirsty, you're very, very thirsty. Go get a glass of water. Then you can sit down and do meditation much better. So you finally say okay, maybe I am thirsty and maybe this is true, and there's no discrimination between either of those, so you get up, you go, get yourself a glass of water, take one sip out of it -- and you're not really thirsty. You put it down and then it's very difficult to be able to go back, to be able to sit back down again, and to be able to do meditation. Because the mind finally drove you out of that situation.

So that is the constant factor that we have to keep on fighting, that we have to get under control. Or if we can't get it under control, at least discriminate from it, because even if you can do that, that's very good. That's excellent. Then you at least can draw a line that says that this is this and this is this. I know that when I'm trying to proceed in this direction, that it is my mind -- and maybe then you can prevent yourself from going into that direction. And then, you go to the other part -- and then you know that it's true, it's really what the truth is all about.

So you have to be able to discriminate between those two factors and not get so lost in this maya, in this world, that you completely lose, completely lose everything.

So premies, welcome to Hans Jayanti. We are


all here to just listen to some satsang, to just understand: what is it all about? What are we trying to do? What is this adventure, so to say, that we have taken and how are we going to finish it? It's so beautiful; I'm really happy to be here. I was excited, in spite of the fact that I was thinking that if the engine did quit what would happen -- but I was excited coming here, and it's really beautiful.

It's growing -- it's so incredible. It's a bad example, I must admit, but it's like radiation. One bomb explodes and there's an initial explosion. And then from there on, it just proceeds, it just goes on and on and on and on. And I know it's very bad example, because it's not exactly the example that should probably be given for this, but that is the way love is. There's an initial explosion that happens and then it just spreads. It spreads like radiation and just covers it, just completely covers it. Look at it: there are premies everywhere. And it's so beautiful.

There was a time in Los Angeles when I first arrived in America -- there was nothing happening, and all of a sudden there was just a little bit of explosion and it was just like radiation, and it just grew. It just started to happen. And now it's so beautiful. Premies come together, and once in a while, you have to admit, the mind kicks in, craziness kicks in. But it's beautiful, because they just keep on going. They keep on going with that love, with that intention of actually accomplishing that peace, actually accomplishing what they're here for.

It was so beautiful, because just before I came here, about a couple of months ago, I was walking on a street, and this guy comes running up to me, and he says, "Are you Guru Maharaj Ji?"

And I say, "yes." And he started asking me all these questions and he just wanted to know, he just wanted to experience. That love, that radiation has grown so much. That love has grown so much that now people are trying to experience it, because what I have to give to this world is something; its very beautiful. It is who we are.

It is not something -- I have a very hard time in terms of explaining this, because the term is not "give." I do not "give." The term is "reveal." When this Knowledge is revealed, it's just like revealing yourself, who you are. Not your concepts, but who you really are inside. And what is that sustaining force? What is that ultimate force that is keeping this stage up right now? What is making that fan turn? What is making those lights glow? What is keeping us alive? Of course, that (the lights) is electricity. This is something else, but what this is, also makes electricity sustain in this world. It is also the thing that is just everywhere, which is omnipotent. Which is omniscient. And its just omnipresent. It's just everywhere. And that is so simple because it is everywhere. Because it is in every form.

I mean, just look at it this way: it's so simple that it's everywhere and you never see it. It's so out of the way -- it's so simple, so subtle -- and it's within inside of us. And this is what we are all about: that venture, that road that we take, that determination that we have in our lives to be able to come there, to be able to just pull together. it's just so beautiful to have Hans Jayanti. Of course, it's not fifty thousand people sitting in front of me. And of course, this is not Orlando. I'll tell you, it's a lot quieter and more peaceful than Orlando, the last Hans Jayanti that we had. It's beautiful. This place is really amazing.

Where the residence is in Los Angeles, it's really quiet. It's on a hill. It's really quiet. But there's a lot of difference between here -- the quietness that is here -- and the quietness that is there, because it's just quiet, it's peaceful. There, you look down to the road and there's these big trucks going back and forth, and so on and so forth. But it's really quiet here. it's really peaceful. it's really beautiful. I think it's a really beautiful spot to come to and to be able to have Hans Jayanti here. Because it gives us physical relaxation to be able to see that the harmony is there and we have to harmonize to it. When I first initially came here, it was, I must admit, it was hot and I was really tired. And then I went to sleep and I heard all the thunder, heard the rain and I woke up and it was just really beautiful because I just saw the clouds breaking up, could see the sun just shining through them. It was really beautiful because everything just cooled. It was really nice, really beautiful.

But that's the way we are inside. Inside, it's even more beautiful. It's so beautiful inside of us -- not in terms of guts and hearts and lungs -- but inside of us, where that true self is, that


Prem Rawat (Maharaji) 1977
Prem Rawat (Maharaji) Guru Maharaj Ji the Satguru and Perfect Master 1977

all the beauty put together, most definitely of this whole world, of this whole universe couldn't outweigh it.

So premies, we have that, and we have that opportunity to be able to come together and to be able to understand that. And this is just the first satsang. We've got tomorrow and we've got the day after tomorrow. We also have another option. We have the option of just making it day after tomorrow, day after tomorrow, day after tomorrow. The day after that day and for the rest of our lives, making it always that companionship, that satsang, service and meditation. It always can be Hans Jayanti for us, as long as we live.

So we have all these options -- and in these two days I would just like to explore, I'd just like to tell you some of my experiences and I'd just like to share what this is all about, what love is. I'd like to tell you how we can really all come together.

All I can do is sing the glory of Knowledge. And that covers about the whole span area. Because just singing the glory of this beautiful Knowledge, singing the glory of this understanding, of this love, of this process -- it's completely incredible. It's completely beautiful. I've given so many satsang programs and there are so many, so many scriptures in this whole world -- and they're just trying to sing the glory of this Name. They're just trying to sing the glory of this Word. It's -- well, gorgeous is an extreme understatement.

So here we are. Most beautiful thing would be to just unwind from the hustle-bustle of daily traffic jams to what have you -- traffic problems -- because this is a place where it can be done. Just unwind your mind a little bit, to just keep it in a box, closed and locked for a little while, so maybe you can get a little chance to experience Knowledge in this beautiful environment. We have this opportunity and let us make use of it, because it's all worth it. I'll be giving satsang in Hindi, because there's a lot of premies who possibly don't understand English.

We are all here, so let's enjoy ourselves. Our enjoyment is different. Our enjoyment is totally blissful. Our enjoyment is the kind of gambling that we do.

We bet on a number, and if we win, we can make that come again and again and again and again and again -- we don't have to lose. This is the gambling of love. This is the gambling of bliss. You never gamble in this gambling game. You just bet on a number. And if you try, you'll win. If you don't try, you'll lose. But if you try, you can win it. It's just like for sure game.

So let's come together and let's really try to experience it. Thank you very much.