While Guru Maharaj Ji was on his international tour last November, he held a program in Frankfurt, Germany, for the local premie community. After satsang and Arti, Maharaj Ji pulled his chair to the edge of the stage and the audience gathered around him for "casual" satsang:
So. How's the Frankfurt community doing? I've seen the premies from Heidelberg here? How are the premies in general doing? Pretty good or pretty bad? Understanding Knowledge or having very difficult times? Very difficult times? Hmm?
You make effort in the right direction. It's like trying to take pictures. You don't press the shutter. You press the rest of the camera, and nothing will happen. You just have to press the shutter and you'll have a picture. Same way: you make the effort in the right direction and you will get positive results. You make the effort in the wrong direction and you will not get positive results. I think premies in general are trying. They are. I think just with everybody's cooperation things are starting to move back again.
The way I put it in Denver, was like a big tugboat: they don't go very fast, but just start to go tug, tug, tug, tug, tug, tug, tug, tug and then slowly just start to move out. You can just barely see the whole ship it's moving, the whole ship it's pulling. But after a little while you can most definitely see the result. It's nice. Frankfurt premies are lucky. They're able to have this conference. Everybody was able to come together and have this satsang. That was really nice. Maybe the only thing that you missed was questions and answers. That was supposed to be scheduled. But ask me about questions and answers - I'm an expert at that for seven years I'm an expert at questions and answers.
The thing is that, the more chance you have, the more opportunity that is given to premies to ask questions, the more craziness comes out. You open up something that goes out, and when you do that, lot of craziness can come out and it starts to go all over the place.
But when it's just listening, or it's just understanding service and surrendering to satsang, it is much more beautiful I feel. And I feel premies get a lot more when they surrender and they listen to satsang. I think satsang is a lot more beautiful than trying to have so-called question and answer sessions because we - I used to have a lot of question and answer sessions, and premies would, well, the only benefit premies would ever get from those questions and answers was the satsang that was given for the answers. So it's much better to just listen to some satsang and just try to understand, try to digest.
You'd be surprised if you read, well, the satsang that was given tonight or satsang that has been given earlier that you were present in. Three days later, four days later, two months later, you hear the same satsang again - it's completely amazing, it's completely suprising, because I mean, it's completely amazing because you can digest it a little bit better.
In just terms of talking, it's happening so fast, everything is going so fast, that sometimes it's hard to grasp all of the satsang, but then when you get a chance to sit down and maybe read the whole satsang or maybe get a chance to listen to it again - it is a lot better.
Someone asks if they can go to California to be with Maharaj Ji
Listen. You don't want to go to California. There is the San Andreas Fault that runs from San Francisco all the way to San Andreas, Mexico. And it's a fault. It's a geological fault in the land, and one of these days it's supposed to just split. You don't want to go to California. It's not where we are -- where we are. You
understand what I mean? It's not where we are in terms of country-wise or city- wise or whatever have you - it's where we are at, if we are at a nice place it's very beautiful.
This kind of satsang hasn't happened in years.
Laughter and clapping
There's a lot of love, and then also premies have to understand that if there were fifty thousand premies trying to do this, I'm pretty sure somebody would get killed. Small, miniature - small programs like this - two hundred people here - doesn't hurt - except when you almost got squashed against the stage.
No, these guys have got very bad names. They don't need bad names they do have pretty good service. They try to do their best. Before, it was a little crazy, I must admit - premies got thrown around everywhere, but now it's really beautiful; you don't get rushed through darshan. Before it was like either you could do pranam or you could see me, but now you can at least do both and have Holy Breath, if you need it.
That's a lot of satsang, lot of service. Lot of people look, they say we want to do service, we gotta find some service, we gotta look for some service to do. Sometimes you just have to find service if somebody can't give you service - you just have to find some service to do in your community, and there's a lot of service that you can do - lot of satsang, lot of meditation. We need to be strong, we all need to be very strong - you agree? We need to be all very strong, have a lot of understanding.
We are not trying to run questions and answers - we don't want to get into that …
It's what my experience is and that's what you're going to learn from me.
There are a lot of people who think maybe they'll learn a lot of things if they're with me. All these guys have learned is how to do a lot of service. Forget about everything else.
Divine Times, February 1977 3