Prem Rawat's Teaching about God With Form - In His Own Words
Prem Rawat (Maharaji) uses a quick phrase to describe the tripartite faces of God. He used this especially often during his first years in the West. He says God is the Generator, Operator and Destroyer and is both formless and with form. This is a standard Hindu concept with Brahma the Creator, Vishnu the Preserver and Shiva the Destroyer being the three aspects of God. Rawat mainly speaks of the Creator (or my Creator) and the energy keeping you alive that has no beginning and no end that cannot be created or destroyed. While he often speaks about the certainty of death for everybody he does not personalise it as often. It's all a bit confusing but it seems Prem Himself is God with a Form.
And who could know that better than his wife?
Durga Ji, Prem Rawat's wife, Guru Puja Festival, Miami Beach Florida, 30th July 1977.
We might think Guru Maharaj Ji might make a mistake. Guru Maharaj Ji might be giving satsang and say a word that we think, "Oh, it isn't pronounced like that." But to me that wasn't a mistake, because look what we do. Then our minds jump out and, "Oh, Guru Maharaj Ji made a mistake. So what was the reason for that?" Guru Maharaj Ji is that force, that power, that perfection. And Guru Maharaj Ji is also that power in a form, in person. And I have no idea, I will never, actually I will never be able to see his glory.
Golden Age, March 1978 Number 43 and Divine Times January/February 1978 Volume 7, Number 1
Hans Yog Prakash, The Magnum Opus of Shri Hans Ji Maharaj
You remove the fear of this world. You are the very incarnation of good fortune, and filled with blissfulness. You are Shiva, the one who lets endless nectar flow. You are Generator, Operator and Destroyer, You are the Lord of Lords, King of Kings, the most High. I do not know how to remember You nor how to meditate upon You. You are Lord Shiva incarnate. We cannot see God except in human form. No one has ever seen the Lord in any form except that of His Incarnation. We haven't seen God, and even if we try, we will not see Him. Why should we even speak about seeing Him, when we cannot even paint His picture without distortion.
Hans Yog Prakash
Satgurudev Shri Hans Ji Maharaj
But the relation of the Guru and the disciple transcends human relations, and are based on eternal bond of the jiva and God. Every individual soul is destined to achieve salvation through the grace of a living Guru. … It is only a living spark that can give us light. The truth can only be imparted to us from the living spiritual master. … Guru and God are one and the same entity. One is given form while the other is formless. "I and my father are one." (John, 10; 30) Thus, the knowledge of the self can be attained only at the feet of a living spiritual master. … The living spiritual master is Balyogeshwar Param Hans Satgurudev Shri Sant Ji Maharaj.
Satgurudev Shri Hans Ji Maharaj Divine Light Mission, B-19/3, Shakti Nagar, Delhi 7, India, 1970
Prem Nagar India, 22 September 1967
Only one who has seen and known God within himself can see God in buildings, temples, books, rosary beads, and so on. Some people call Him "Ram," but they don't know His true form. … What is His true form? Aren't we all eager to know His true identity? It is said, "My form is such, that even the brilliance of one thousand suns can never equal it." If His form is so magnificent and if we have such a desire to know it, what's the trouble? Know Him, Know His Name. Even though God is One He pervades everywhere. So what is His real form? If you want to know His true Name and want to see His true form, then take refuge in Guru Maharaj Ji. When you have this Knowledge, you will not need to know anything else. You will know why this human body has been given to you.
AIID:Volume 2, Number 10, September 1975
Alta Loma Terrace, Los Angeles, August 15, 1971
Now He took a form to refine this whole world. Jesus came. He was trying to do all that in Middle East. But now He has taken a form to refine this whole world, from one corner to other corner of the whole world. He has come. And what does He do? He gives people such a technique, such a method, which is perfect, and gets them away from sufferings, the causes of sufferings of this world. God made the mind, but He never made a stoplight. And when He saw that "There is no stop in this mind which I have made," He was very sorry. He had to take a form. The form of Guru is nobody but Himself, the whole that you want to see. The whole power is now in the form of a body. That is the body which is Supremest of all, and its duties, works are not like those of humanity. … We think that God is the highest and holiest thing. But listen: God has come in the form of human man, form of you and me! What can be higher than that? Such a high person took the same form as the lowest thing. No shame at all! For our benefit. I came here for benefit of you. I left my school. I left everything to give you something.
God manifested Himself fully into a form. Not a part, but wholly into a form, to cure people from the disease of sufferings. He came into this world; nobody recognized Him. For He never came like a flash or something, so that people could recognize Him. He came as the law of nature was; He came very silently. But what He was doing side by side, it was rather impossible for people of any time to recognize Him. People of this time also can't recognize what He is doing. They can't recognize what His works are. They can't respect Him. But when He will finish up, and the whole result will be added up, people will pray.
Élan Vital, Spring 1978, Volume II, Issue 1
Denver Ashram, Colorado, 18 September 1971
Q: Then Jesus, was He just the Son of God?
GMJ: Yes, yes, He was a Perfect Master. See, what is the Holy Ghost? The Holy Ghost is the same spirit as God. But when It has to take a human form It comes into that Holy Spirit. When God takes human form He is Perfect Master. Perfect. Because, except for God, nobody's perfect. So when He is the Perfect Master, He is Himself.
Q: Was Jesus of God, or did He have to advance, did He have to be made perfect?
GMJ: He had to be made perfect. That's why the Knowledge was given to Him, then He was perfect.
Q: But He was once imperfect?
And It Is Divine, Volume 1, Issue 1, November 1972
Prem Nagar Ashram, Hardwar, India, November 24, 1971
You have a physical form. You need a physical body to realize it. Now, if you have a formless God then you require a formless Guru to give you this knowledge. Because you have a form, you require a form of Guru to give you a form of a devotee. You require that. For that you take the help of Guru; not only Guru - Satguru. "Sat" means truth and "Gu" means darkness and "Ru" means to light a thing for us. I think that now you have understood, probably not wholly, then part of what I wanted to explain to you. Have you? I think so.
Reflections on an Indian Sunrise
1971 / 1972
If God comes along, you can't sit and write down that experience because it is an emotion you were feeling not by your mind, not by your thinking power, but by your heart. Some people pray to the formless God, and other people pray to the formed God. But we pray neither to the formless or to the formed we pray to the Word. The Word is neither formless or in a form. That is why this is called the middle path. Open a seed and you won't find a tree, yet there is still a tree existing in that seed. A form has come out of a formless thing. God means: "G" for generator; "O" for operator; and "D" for destroyer. We are born, we are living, and we die.
Satguru Maharaj Ji booklet
Johannesburg, South Africa, 29th April, 1972
We read the scriptures without understanding what they are saying. Indian people read the Bhagavad Gita and in this Lord Krishna, the Living Master of His time, said clearly, "Don't recognize me by my external appearance for this is perishable. My true form has no beginning and no end. Believe it or not, the fact is that God is supreme and pure: The people are lying on a bed of ignorance and dreams and doubts. They expect God Himself to come (they pray for it, they ask for it, they announce about it) but when He comes, they fail to recognize Him. And not recognizing Him in His physical form, they cannot recognize Him within themselves.
The Golden Age, July 1979, Number 54
Guru Puja Festival, Montrose, Colorado, 26 July 1972
So a Perfect Master always manifests himself into this human form. If he comes as a dog, we are going to chain him and put him in our house. If he comes as a cat … So which is the most appropriate form for him to manifest himself? He does not manifest for cows, for dogs, for sheep and so on; he manifests himself for the human race. And it's not a question that God has manifested himself for one age only. Over centuries and centuries, years and years, ages and ages, God has come here. But, because of our simple ignorance, we couldn't realize him.
Divine Times, Millenium '73 Edition
Tokyo, Japan, October 1972
When we say 'G', 'o', 'd' it's not appropriate word for God. Though we may define it in three forms, 'G' for Generator, 'O' for Operator and 'D' for Destroyer. We might say this but this is not God. God is beyond this, much beyond this. The scientists have defined this power as being energy and they say energy is never created and never destroyed. This is that energy and we have to understand this energy and be one with energy. Then only can we understand, then only can we realise why we have become into this world.
Divine Light Mission film "Who Is Guru Maharaj Ji?" 1973
Killarney Heights, Sydney, October 1972
"Form" means that energy takes a form which is like Guru. Okay? Formless energy is energy. Formless form of God is energy, and does that energy have any form? No. Guru has a form, right? And Guru is a form; energy is formless. But you have to see to consider something formless and with form. God is not visible by these eyes. So He is formless, He has a form yet He is beyond all that. Because you cannot see Him with these eyes. This is a common thing, but commonsense is uncommon.
Why did God ever take form?
There is no question we can ask "Why?" to God, of course. God is ten times, a thousand times, a million times more clever than us. And any step He takes we do not know why He took that step. If you are the boss of the world and God works under you then you can ask Him, "Why did you take a form?" He takes a form of a Guru to come into this world to enlighten people, to show then a way, to show them a path. That's what we can see, that's what we can realise why He takes a form.
Golden Age May 1978 Number 45
Guru Puja, Alexandra Palace, London, July 13 1973
I don't say I am a Messiah, I don't say I am a prophet, I just say I can give you peace because it's within inside of you, I can reveal it, because I have that capability. I am not assigned to this by anyone, it's voluntary act I am performing to give people peace because they need it in this world. Lord Krishna even says, that "whenever there will be a decline in true religion, I will manifest Myself in human form to protect My devotees, and destroy evil." And see, He comes, He has manifested Himself and He always comes.
The Golden Age Number 9, July 6 - July 27, 1974
Los Angeles California, January 27 1974
What is a Perfect Master? What is actually a Perfect Master? You see it is said, it is also been said in Gita that whenever there will be a decline in true religion then I'll manifest myself into this human form and come to perfect, come to perfect my devotees. He'll come in a human form and this is what a Perfect Master is who comes in human form. Now when, when we say Perfect Master we do not mean that he is like that genie that you see on television.
Perfect Master Tape #010
Guru Puja, Caracas Venezuela, July 25th 1975
You see, these examples prove that the Lord is Almighty, he is All Perfect. He can come in any form, any way, any time, any second, he wants to. We cannot say, "Well, that is the time he is gonna come," because if we can limit him, then it's a little bit funny. Because then he is limited. Then where is his perfectness? Every time, a Perfect Master has shown us that he is unlimited. He can do anything he wants to do. Be crucified, be dead, and still be able to come back. So, premies, besides all the prophecies of this world, one thing we have to realize is that he is always with us. He is omnipresent, omnipotent, and omniscient. But because of our crazy mind, we always contradict ourselves by saying, "Lord is going to come," comma, "he is omnipresent." If he is omnipresent, then where is he going to come from? That means he is not omnipresent. Or if he is, then he is always here. That is what we have to realize, that form of him that is omnipresent!
Divine Times, Millenium '73 Edition
Public Program, Hans Jayanti Festival, Orlando Florida, Afternoon, 9 November 1975
But reverse that to the Lord. He can come in any form, any shape, any time, any way. And then we, the smart guys, will be left with our problem. We'll be taken down in the history books as one of "them" who when the Lord came, never realized Him. Because it's infinite, it can adapt itself to any shape, any form, any time, in any way. Have you ever thought of that? We know He is all-powerful and He is all-graceful. … He can come in any form, any shape, any time, any way (Bolie Shri Satgurudev Maharaj Ki Jai, applause) and then we, the smart guys, will be left with our problem. We'll be taken down in the history books as one of "them" who when the Lord came, never realized Him.
And It Is Divine Magazine, Volume 3, Issue 1 and Light Reading, 1980
Guru Puja Lingfield England June 21 1979
Guru Maharaj Ji shows us something which is real, which is true because Guru Maharaj Ji brings us into this world and shows us something, gives us that realisation, shows us what God really is. In its true form. That God that has no religion, is bound to no religion, is not abducted by a religion because that's what the religions do, they abduct God, they steal Him, get a copyright on Him. If you don't do things a certain way you don't believe in God. You have to go to a church every Sunday.
Guru Puja Lingfield England 1979 video
Hans Jayanti, Kissimmee, Florida, November 5, 1979
Look at Mira. She didn't care. She was the wife of a king. She didn't say, "Well, where am I going?" In the Indian culture, a shoemaker in the caste system is supposed to be the lowest. And she found Guru Maharaj Ji. Her Guru Maharaj Ji had manifested for her in that form. And she went. She didn't care. And she completely got lost, she got completely blissed out. Even one time her husband sent her a cup of poison and said, "Here, this is the charanamrit from your Guru Maharaj Ji. Drink this." And she did. And it was.
Élan Vital, Fall 1980, Volume IV, Issue 3
Rome, Italy - June 25, 1980
When Guru Maharaj Ji Ji Himself, like I said, that power Himself, accepts and will and does, take a human form, so that you can relate, for every individual human being, then what do you think is left that you can't understand? Do you think He'll come in this world, do you think Guru Maharaj Ji comes in this world to make the most incredible thing the simplest thing and then take the simplest things and make them so incredible that nobody can understand them.
Ashram Satsang video, June 25 1980
Caracas Venezuela, 4th February 1981
God is one, God is the Creator, God is the Sustainer, God is the Destroyer, it's methodically in all the religions. … This is, this is this is what we need to experience. Who can who can argue that? For that Creator which is motionless, the Creator is formless, the Creator that's timeless, the energy which drives everything and yet nothing drives it. … This is, this is this is what we need to experience. Who can who can argue that? For that Creator which is motionless, the Creator is formless, the Creator that's timeless, the energy which drives everything and yet nothing drives it. … In normal terms they were as human you know perfect human beings. They could see, they could hear, they could walk and yet still coming and finding the biggest miracle because what Jesus showed them, what Jesus showed them was that form, that manifestation of that Creator that one received by a human being the doubts go away, the questions disappear.
Perfect Master Tape 173
Melbourne, Australia - March 23, 1982
And yet there is one more grace, the grace that Guru Maharaj Ji comes in this world to present us, to give us that Knowledge, to show us the experience of this Knowledge. Guru Maharaj Ji comes in this world in a physical form. Why? Why, what is the reason why a physical form is taken? To be able to come in this world and help us human beings
Shri Sant Yogashram, New Delhi, Hans Jayanti celebrations, November 9 1990
Just see, today this word 'guru' has become a ridiculous term, a sort of a joke and people do not know what is a 'guru'. When I fly a plane in India, I often listen to the radio in the cockpit. There are talks going on between various pilots in the vicinity. Somebody would address: "Well guru, how are you?" Because they do not know the true meaning and implications. They don't understand the glory of a guru and Master. Because they have forgotten altogether. They have made such pseudo-guru who have put the whole system to disrepute. … Such so-called gurus have marred the reputation of this institution. It has been ruined. Actually the guru is such a personality about whom it is said: I bow down to the lotus feet of my Guru Maharaj Ji who is the ocean of mercy and is actually Hari (God) himself in human form. And whose words are like sunbeams to disperse the accumulated darkness of gross ignorance. So Tulsidas says that he bows down to such a Guru Maharaj Ji, the Master, who is really Hari (Supreme Power) in the form of man. So the main thing to understand here is that he bows down to the feet of that guru whose utterances, whose expressions are able to illuminate. And what is that which is illuminated by his words? It is the heart which is illuminated. His words are able to sever and dispel the spidery web of illusion, infatuation and ignorance.
'Life Force', Volume 7, Issue 2 April-June 1991
The Connection video, 1998
It's a total package. Physically there is a Master so you can connect and internally there is Knowledge so you can connect on both levels. Make the connection."
The Connection video, 1998
The And It is Divine magazines included the following proclamation in one form or another:
By the grace of Almighty Lord, we bring you the magazine And It Is Divine. You will find this magazine very different from others, because it shows not only the suffering of the world, but also a way out for all humanity.
There has never been a time when the Lord of Creation did not manifest Himself in human form, and come to this planet Earth to do away with evil and spread the True Knowledge. But history is a pendulum which is always in swing. There have been so many scriptures, but still people have never been able to understand Him.
Divine Light Mission wants to bring world peace by sharing the Knowledge which is within us by the grace of Almighty Lord. In this magazine, we hope to give information about the peace which lives within us, which Guru Maharaj Ji reveals.
And yes, He, Himself, Prem Rawat aka Sant Ji Maharaj, Prem Pal Singh Rawat, Maharaji, Guru Maharaj Ji, Balyogeshwar Param Sant Ji Maharaj was the manifestation of the 'Lord of Creation' and his signature was on every
print of this manifesto.